He wants a $720,000 mortgage at 2.99% – “the BMO rate”

Hello, this is Ross Taylor speaking. “Hi, I see you are offering a 2.99% five year, fixed rate mortgage. Is that the BMO product?”

Me: No sir that is not something I have access to, but actually since January 25 it is no longer being offered by BMO. Their mortgage is presently 3.49%.

Caller: Okay, so how do I get one of yours?

Me: Well, we still have one lender who is offering this incredible rate, but their lending criteria are pretty strict. If you fit their criteria, then it should be no problem. Are you buying a home or refinancing?

Caller: I am refinancing. I have a $430,000 mortgage now; it’s a variable rate mortgage at 2.2%. My home is worth in the $900’s, and I want to take a few hundred thousand out of the equity. I know it’s no problem; I just want your rate.

Me: Okay, well it comes down to a few things. Your home’s value, your employment and income, and your credit history. Do you have any idea how your credit history is? Have you had any disputes with any lenders, or had any problems making payments on time?

Caller: No, my credit is amazing. I checked my score a few weeks ago, and I think it was 625.

Me: Oh, actually that’s not so high. Perhaps you have significant balances on your credit cards?

Caller: No, I pay everything off.

Me: Okay, then I am going to guess there are some payment disputes, or late payments in your past. I have to tell you their minimum Beacon score to qualify is 640 – so we may have a problem there. If so, we may need to look at another lender – where the rate is still a very reasonable 3.29%.

Caller: No I want the BMO rate of 2.99%. If you cannot do that, I will go elsewhere.

Me: Um, but BMO doesn’t have that rate anymore – no one else does.

Caller: Doesn’t matter, I’ll find it.

Me: Okay, let’s move on. You know, you are asking for a mortgage of around $720,000 – that’s a pretty big mortgage. You will have to make a very large income to qualify for that.

Caller: It’s no problem, I make very good money, and so does my wife. But I want to take her off title, and just put the property in my name. Can you do that?

Me: Well, yes, first your lawyer would transfer title to you, and then we would apply for your new mortgage. But then we cannot count your wife’s income in the application. Perhaps you two are getting a divorce?

Caller: Exactly – so it will only be me. I make $80,000 to $90,000 per year. It’s good yes?

Me: Yes, very respectable sir. But your mortgage, taxes, and heating bills would chew up more than half your gross  pay. That’s going to be a problem. The lender would not be comfortable with that.

Me: Perhaps you are self-employed? If you are, then maybe your gross income is much higher, and we might be able to finesse this issue.

Caller: No I work for salary – I get paid $2,600 every two weeks. Last year I made $77,000. This year, I will work lots of overtime, and make more.

Me: Hmm. I think to qualify for any mortgage sir you will need to bring someone else into the transaction. That would help bring your debt servicing ratios onside.

Caller: No I don’t want anyone else. Anyway, how much can you lend me? My property is easily worth over a million dollars actually – but I want you to show as low a value as possible because of my divorce. I have to give half the equity in the home to my wife – that’s why I am doing this.

Me: Ok, let’s recap sir. You seem very knowledgeable about the mortgage industry. Your home is worth more than a million dollars, but you want me to say it is only worth $900,000, and you want to borrow $720,000 against it.

Caller: That’s right.

Me: Your credit history is “amazing”, but your Beacon score is 625.

Caller: Yes.

Me: You make $2,600 gross every two weeks. So after normal deductions, you are left with less than $2,000. And you are asking me for a mortgage which would have a monthly payment of $3,024. On top of that, your property taxes and utility bills would be another $1,000 or so.

And we have not even discussed if you would be paying spousal or child support after the divorce. But with these numbers sir, you have no money left over for food, shelter, and transportation.

Caller: Yes, yes, I understand but it’s a beautiful home – actually maybe it’s worth $1.2 million, maybe more – and I can make this work.

Me: Well sir, I think I understand what you are trying to accomplish, but I am sorry I have no idea how to help you with the facts you have presented.

Caller: So you are not going to give me the BMO rate of 2.99%? This is misleading advertising. I shall complain to my MP – you won’t get away with this you know.

Me: I’m very sorry sir, have a great day. There may be a mortgage transaction in here somewhere, but I’m just not good enough to give you what you are asking for.

Should I buy out my leased Acura TL?

Dear Ross – I love my Acura TL and it only has 50,000 km on it. The four year lease expires next month. I can buy out the car for $25,000. What do you think I should do?

Hi Zoey, I know the mileage on your Acura is low and you love the car, but a $25,000 buy out is NOT in your best interests. I traded in my 2008 TL Type S (supposedly a better car) for only $20,000 three months ago and I feel lucky. I tried to sell it privately for months before that and had no luck.

BTW, people often assume that if cars are listed in Auto Trader at a certain price point, then they could also sell privately for a similar amount. I find that is only true with older cars (like  7 years old or more)

Acura right now still has a great deal – 0.25% lease rate – zero cost maintenance and a 25 month lease. They are celebrating twenty five years of being in business in Canada. And because the cars have a high residual value, the monthly nut is very reasonable.

I took the smaller TSX and with the help of Automobile Protection Association (APA) the monthly payment is only $417, taxes included, with zero down payment

So my advice is give back your old TL and consider a two year lease on the model of your choice. I am very happy with my TSX.

Identity theft struck home this week

I get teased for treating my computer like Fort Knox. I use Avast anti virus, and run scans twice a week. I use a malware detector, and I also use Registry Mechanic to keep my registry clean. I don’t surf sites of dubious repute, and I back up my back ups! But still, we got a serious call from our bank earlier this week.

It was the Fraud Prevention folks at CIBC. First we endured fifteen minutes of interrogation about our usage of our debt card – both online and in the real world. We had to verify where we had been and what we had done. Once they were satisfied we were us, the guy relaxed and explained what happened.

They know we use online banking regularly – and they know the IP addresses and internet service providers we ordinarily use. In the past week, there had been several log ins from strange IP addresses. And we had never heard of the internet service provider they were asking about.

In fact, we never use the debit card in the real world. Never. We only use it for online banking. The guy revealed that CIBC believed someone had figured out our ATM card number, and was scoping our online activity and accounts, and waiting to make a move. Thankfully, nothing had been done yet.

These criminals watch your patterns first, so that when they begin to use their fake version of your ATM card, they know exactly how to fly under the radar.

The bank investigator told us to close ALL our accounts immediately. He cancelled our two visas (a pain as we have automated payments coming from them), and he sent us to the branch the next day to close and re open all the bank accounts, and to get another ATM card number with a different number.

I don’t know how this happened, but I do know for a week or so there in early January, my computer had been acting very strangely. I had spent a great deal of time cleaning and optimizing it until finally I got it back to efficient working order.

Going forward, I thought about what I can do differently to prevent this happening again. The only thing I could think of is to change our online banking passwords at least once a week. Also, as a reader points out, don’t save your bank card # on the login screen. Reenter it every time and clear cookies when you sign out.

If you have any other suggestions, I’d love to hear them.

BMO settles down. Low rate mortgage back up to 3.49%

After a hugely successful pricing campaign for their low rate, five year mortgage product offering, BMO has come back down to earth today and reset their rate to a more typical (for them) 3.49%. The past few weeks have been frenetic in the mortgage industry, as their limited time special offer of 2.99% galvanized what is typically a quiet month in the business.

As the banks normally do, BMO’s website shows their “posted rate” of 5.29% (specially for unsophisticated buyers and some BMO mortgage renewals) They also display their new ‘low rate’ of 3.49% – which overnight has gone from being market leading to somewhat uncompetitive.

It will be interesting to see where the dust settles now that every lender and mortgage specialist is no longer trying to contain a frenzied mortgage customer base who wanted their share of the lowest mortgage interest rate in Canadian history. I suspect there will be a lot of fine tuning of rates by all lenders in the days to follow – so if you are thinking of refinancing, best talk to a mortgage broker agent very quickly, while the going is still good.

When I woke up this morning, I was still able to offer 2.99%, fixed for five years, for clean, clean deals which close within the next sixty days. And this is NOT a low frills product offering.

2.99% for four years is also pretty standard, and a few lenders are promoting three years at 2.89%. Normally, brokers would not recommend a three year product – but it helps for clients who are fanatical about having secured the lowest rate possible (allows for posturing at cocktail parties), and some lenders boosted their commissions from 50 basis points up to 70 basis points to lessen the pain for the broker agents.

Stay tuned. We will see if this was a one shot deal by BMO, or whether or not it was an opening salvo in a new era of aggressive  pricing and open warfare in the battle to secure new clients. This will be especially important if it is true that Canada’s housing market will cool off this year, and volumes everywhere decline. We will all be competing hard for fewer new deals.

Mortgage panic – one day before condition of financing will expire

I got an urgent call from a realtor friend last Friday afternoon. He explained he had clients buying a home whose condition of financing was expiring on Monday afternoon, and they had not been approved at the Royal Bank, their long time personal bank.

The offer had been made the previous Monday, and finally on Friday, RBC advised the clients they would not qualify for a mortgage, but perhaps they might consider a “B” type mortgage. Could I help?

I promised to stop everything I was doing, and get on it right away. The realtor sent me the MLS listing and the offer to purchase, and set up a call between me and his clients.

It only took ten minutes on the phone to understand that RBC was correct – these were not “A” clients – the question becomes how come it took RBC four business days to figure this out? And how long would it take them to find a suitable “B” mortgage solution, and on what terms? The clients were major league stressed out – worrying they were going to lose this house, and they had lost faith in the process.

Turns out both Mr. and Mrs. Smith had declared bankruptcy in 2007. Since then, Mrs. Smith had not made any attempts to reestablish her credit history – so she in fact had no credit score. Mr. Smith does have a car loan with a TD Bank, and a $300 Capital One credit card – which was well over the limit, carrying a balance of $670.

However, Mr. Smith also had three unpaid collection accounts sitting in his credit history. A total mess, his Equifax credit score was a generous 518. How clear does it have to be that this couple cannot possibly qualify for the type of mortgage we all lust after – like 2.99% with Partner Mortgage, fixed for five years?

On the plus side, they both have excellent jobs, Mr. Smith having working in the same manufacturing plant as an assembler for thirty five years, and his wife works at a Tim Horton’s store full time, and has done so for eight years.

Further good news – they plan to put $60,000 down towards the purchase price of $295,000. So their loan to value ratio is a respectable 80%.

The solution was clear. First, I had to explain to Mr. and Mrs. Smith the reality of their circumstances, and to show them a path towards the kind of mortgage they want and ultimately deserve.

I got on the phone to our dedicated underwriter at Partner Mortgage, one who specializes in B mortgages. We agreed the best approach to get Mr. and Mrs. Smith into their new home is a one year mortgage with Partner Mortgage at an interest rate of 4.75%. The monthly payment will be $1,333.

As is typical with B mortgages, there would be a one-time lender fee of 1% of the mortgage amount à$2,350.

Over the next year, I will give the couple a specific action plan as to how to establish a decent credit score for Mrs. Smith, and how to increase Mr. Smith’s credit score. The goal being to get each of them in the low 600’s within a year, when their one year mortgage matures.

One year from now, we can recheck their credit history and see if their application is strong enough to switch over to an ‘A’ lender. I believe it will be, we will renew for one more year, at which point I am certain they will be ready.

The rule of thumb for reestablishing credit is to have at least two credit facilities; with a limit of at least $2,000, and ideally from a major lender or credit card issuer – as opposed to a retail store card, or even a Capital One card – which is quite easily obtained, and does not have the currency of a major bank credit card.

By Monday before lunch, Patty had issued a commitment letter exactly as promised. The conditions were that Mr. Smith’s Capital One card be paid in full (it is already) and that he prove he has settled all the outstanding collection accounts registered against his name. (He did that too last week)

Thus, the crisis was averted and the happy and relieved couple can look forward to taking possession of their new home in March.

Happy ending right? Well yes, and no. When I spoke with Mr. Smith on Monday afternoon, he seemed calm and cool – actually distant, compared to his frantic, pleading tone on Friday.

Turns out he called RBC on Friday after speaking with me, and told them he had already found a mortgage broker agent who had quickly assessed the file and promised him a mortgage commitment along these lines before the deadline expired.

Someone at RBC woke up and realized they were about to lose their client, and they should stop dicking around. Shortly after, they called Mr. Smith and promised him a one year mortgage also – at 4.5 % and there would be no lender fee He happily accepted.

So life is good. My realtor friend is happy as his deal will close after all. The Smiths are happy as they salvaged a desperate situation, and secured a really good mortgage under the circumstances. The only casualties in the process were me and Partner Mortgage – as I had cleared my desk to prioritize the Smiths, and my underwriter had done the same thing.

Such is the life of a mortgage broker agent. You win some, you lose some. You do the best you can, provide service above and beyond the norm, and you will win your share of business.

Although this transaction will not be going through our books, my realtor friend is very grateful and appreciative – and has committed to working with me on the majority of his deals from now on.

Realtors only get paid when the sale closes. They don’t want to waste a lot of time on borderline deals which get mangled by clients who mess up on securing financing.  No one does.

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